Foot Bath options - IFSQN (2025)

");//]]>

Started by Angus86, Jan 23 2014 06:08 PM

Share this


  • You cannot start a new topic
  • Please log in to reply

15 replies to this topic

#1Angus86

Angus86

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (4)
  • 58 posts
  • 2 thanks

2
Neutral


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (5)

Posted 23 January 2014 - 06:08 PM

We are looking into getting foot baths for our food operation, but it was mentioned that we do not was liquid baths. Ironic, right? Someone said there were "Crystal" foot baths out there. Does anyone know about these or where I can find them?


  • 0
  • Back to top

#2TheDude

TheDude

    Grade - AIFSQN

  • IFSQN Associate
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (8)
  • 48 posts
  • 7 thanks

2
Neutral


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (9)

  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 23 January 2014 - 07:28 PM

We use quat based sanitzer beads (Traffic Aid No. 315) in a rubber mat.


  • 1
  • Back to top

Thanked by 1 Member:

Parkz58

#3Slab

Slab

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (12)
  • 451 posts
  • 212 thanks

108
Excellent


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (13)

  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Lonely High Steppe
  • Interests:Reading (history, science fiction), Photography, drawing,food safety, metrology, TQM, hoplology, etc.

Posted 23 January 2014 - 08:10 PM

Hi, and welcome to the forums.

Why could you not use liquid? Could you please provide some more information about your industry?

Either an iodine or QA dip in a scrub mat is a good, inexpensive, and low maintenance solution. A better method IMO is a foaming station with a QA range of 600-1,200 ppm, however the initial cost is much greater (roughly $2,000 usd per unit). Daily operational maintenance is non-existent which can be a life saver during audits, as the system is basically just flipping the switch preop (other than checking titrations of course).


  • 0

Food Safety News

"Some people freak out when they see small vertebra in their pasta" ~ Chef John

  • Back to top

#4jonboy47

jonboy47

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Associate
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (16)
  • 15 posts
  • 6 thanks

1
Neutral


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (17)

Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:08 PM

Slab:

I'm not sure what is produced in this individual's facility, but in many "dry" facilities (such as those which produce nuts or grains and have no wet processing) rely on a dry production environment to reduce microbial growth risk and risk to product. Wet food baths unnecessarily introduce moisture into a production environment that would not otherwise have it and may introduce new risks to the facility.

I would encourage anyone utilizing foot baths to assess their effectiveness in your facility (verification, validation). I have heard that there has been some research into this subject and the data does not indicate that foot baths alone are an effective control measure. Captive footwear, in conjuction with baths,is the measure that I have heard works best for prevention. Some facilities may not even need a control measure for foot traffic, depending on their production environment.

Just my thoughts.

Jon


  • 0
  • Back to top

Thanked by 1 Member:

Slab

#5Angus86

Angus86

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (20)
  • 58 posts
  • 2 thanks

2
Neutral


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (21)

Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:42 PM

Thank you all for your input. Our facility is a dry powderblending facility. What Jon said is true, we do not want to introduce unnecessary moisture. We have an effective Environmental Monitoring program in place and have had to microbial issues to date (knock on wood). However, using foot baths is being suggested by several of our customers so it is something we are looking into.


  • 0
  • Back to top

#6jreinke

jreinke

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (24)
  • 1 posts
  • 1 thanks

0
Neutral


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (25)

Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

I have resently as our chemical about this as well. He is recommending a product called Boost.

Attached Files

  • Boost FT Product Spotlight1.ppt 1.39MB259 downloads

  • 0
  • Back to top

Thanked by 1 Member:

chu lin

#7Slab

Slab

    Grade - SIFSQN

  • IFSQN Senior
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (29)
  • 451 posts
  • 212 thanks

108
Excellent


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (30)

  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Lonely High Steppe
  • Interests:Reading (history, science fiction), Photography, drawing,food safety, metrology, TQM, hoplology, etc.

Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:00 PM

Slab:

I'm not sure what is produced in this individual's facility, but in many "dry" facilities (such as those which produce nuts or grains and have no wet processing) rely on a dry production environment to reduce microbial growth risk and risk to product. Wet food baths unnecessarily introduce moisture into a production environment that would not otherwise have it and may introduce new risks to the facility.

I would encourage anyone utilizing foot baths to assess their effectiveness in your facility (verification, validation). I have heard that there has been some research into this subject and the data does not indicate that foot baths alone are an effective control measure. Captive footwear, in conjuction with baths,is the measure that I have heard works best for prevention. Some facilities may not even need a control measure for foot traffic, depending on their production environment.

Just my thoughts.

Jon

Thank you all for your input. Our facility is a dry powderblending facility. What Jon said is true, we do not want to introduce unnecessary moisture. We have an effective Environmental Monitoring program in place and have had to microbial issues to date (knock on wood). However, using foot baths is being suggested by several of our customers so it is something we are looking into.

That makes perfect sense.

My concern with a dry sanitize application is dust as it may become airborne and contaminate product. So perhaps your lack of boot scrub could be validated with procedural methods strengthened as jonboy advises.

Here is a thread on the same topic;

http://www.ifsqn.com...hoe-sanitizers/


  • 0

Food Safety News

"Some people freak out when they see small vertebra in their pasta" ~ Chef John

  • Back to top

#8clover

clover

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (33)
  • 77 posts
  • 5 thanks

2
Neutral


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (34)

Posted 15 July 2016 - 08:01 AM

Just how effective is a foot bath? I know it should be monitored and regulated, with frequent change but how should this be done? The sanitizing solution inside the foot bath has a contact time of 1 minute but surely no one is going to stand inside the foot bath for half a minute, much less one minute when passing through the entrance/exit of butchery...!!


  • 0
  • Back to top

#9clover

clover

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (37)
  • 77 posts
  • 5 thanks

2
Neutral


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (38)

Posted 19 August 2016 - 05:01 AM

Hi , any takers on my enquiry below?

Just wondering if there are any other better alternatives compared to foot bath? I feel that foot bath is a complete waste of money + useless. Please feel free to share your opinion with me :)

Just how effective is a foot bath? I know it should be monitored and regulated, with frequent change but how should this be done? The sanitizing solution inside the foot bath has a contact time of 1 minute but surely no one is going to stand inside the foot bath for half a minute, much less one minute when passing through the entrance/exit of butchery...!!


  • 0
  • Back to top

#10Scampi

Scampi

    Fellow

  • IFSQN Fellow
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (41)
  • 5,967 posts
  • 1620 thanks

1,795
Excellent


  • Canada
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (43)

  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 29 August 2016 - 01:29 PM

a quat based foot bath at the correct dosage does not need 1 minute of contact time. The idea is to use the correct chemical at the correct dosage for the required contact time. Ours are placed directly in front of the hand wash stations so employees are standing in it the entire time of the hand wash. The quat we use is effective against listeria, poultry viruses and gram negative organisms. The boot dips are dosed at 800-1000 ppm to be effective for 30 second contact time. The quats are appealing because of a very long efficacy time vs many other options. Almost everyone would chose an automatic foamer over a step in tray, but as mentioned in PP, they are very expensive. I have been in RTE facilities were you are required to walk through a boot cleaner that scrubs your boots almost to the knee. It wouldn't be mandatory in many countries if they weren't effective. BTW, part of terms of employment are our facility is that work boots do not go outside and do not leave the premises unless you've terminated your employement


  • 0

Please stop referring to me as Sir/sirs

  • Back to top

#11Tim V

Tim V

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (46)
  • 4 posts
  • 0 thanks

0
Neutral


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (47)

Posted 02 October 2016 - 01:44 AM

At my vasility we don't have foot baths at or near every door entering production areas. Are foot baths more of a required item or are they just recommended and are not 100% needed?


  • 0
  • Back to top

#12Tim V

Tim V

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (50)
  • 4 posts
  • 0 thanks

0
Neutral


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (51)

Posted 02 October 2016 - 01:44 AM

At my vasility we don't have foot baths at or near every door entering production areas. Are foot baths more of a required item or are they just recommended and are not 100% needed?


  • 0
  • Back to top

#13Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (54)
  • 20,542 posts
  • 5697 thanks

1,552
Excellent


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (56)

  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 02 October 2016 - 07:25 AM

At my vasility we don't have foot baths at or near every door entering production areas. Are foot baths more of a required item or are they just recommended and are not 100% needed?

Hi Tim,

As per Post4, it may relate to what kind of business you are doing and under whose jurisdiction ?


  • 0

Kind Regards,

Charles.C

  • Back to top

#14kushan_c

kushan_c

    Grade - Active

  • IFSQN Active
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (59)
  • 2 posts
  • 0 thanks

0
Neutral


  • Sri Lanka
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (60)

Posted 17 April 2017 - 10:38 AM

Hello,

I am new for the forum. There are many things to learn for me. Thanks everyone.

In our factory, we use same foot bath for two sections. Because the entrances are nearly close. Is it Ok or Not?


  • 0
  • Back to top

#15Charles.C

Charles.C

    Grade - FIFSQN

  • IFSQN Moderator
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (63)
  • 20,542 posts
  • 5697 thanks

1,552
Excellent


  • Earth
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (65)

  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:SF
    TV
    Movies

Posted 17 April 2017 - 12:38 PM

Hello,

I am new for the forum. There are many things to learn for me. Thanks everyone.

In our factory, we use same foot bath for two sections. Because the entrances are nearly close. Is it Ok or Not?

I suggest doing a Risk Assessment.


  • 0

Kind Regards,

Charles.C

  • Back to top

#16Parkz58

Parkz58

    Grade - MIFSQN

  • IFSQN Member
  • Foot Bath options - IFSQN (68)
  • 218 posts
  • 66 thanks

28
Excellent


  • United States
    Foot Bath options - IFSQN (69)

  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Freeport, IL

Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:20 PM

Sani Step by Ecolab


  • 0
  • Back to top

Back to Personal Hygiene

Foot Bath options - IFSQN (2025)

References

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Recommended Articles
Article information

Author: Greg O'Connell

Last Updated:

Views: 5867

Rating: 4.1 / 5 (42 voted)

Reviews: 81% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Greg O'Connell

Birthday: 1992-01-10

Address: Suite 517 2436 Jefferey Pass, Shanitaside, UT 27519

Phone: +2614651609714

Job: Education Developer

Hobby: Cooking, Gambling, Pottery, Shooting, Baseball, Singing, Snowboarding

Introduction: My name is Greg O'Connell, I am a delightful, colorful, talented, kind, lively, modern, tender person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.